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You meet more people in public matches online with in games like Call of duty, which gives you more of a chance to meet more skilled players. When i've made private matches or joined them for competative reasons it takes time to find people to make that match. YTou're more likley to face up against better players without finding them in a game that holds 32 different players. MLG is set out under a members rule where  people play in tournaments. To become a member of MLG you have to pay a fee to enter tournaments. Again there are more skilled players in public matches you'll meet rather than take time to set up one with MLG members. And not every game has an MLG ladder.

I've gained dleaderboards in single player games yes. But you're a clueless Fcking idiot if you think they aren't competative. You've obviously never played ninja gaiden black edition or Demon souls against other players leaderboards and actually done something. Yuo have no i F'n dea what you're talkign about. You'd like to think singleplayer games mean nothing in the way of leaderboards. For certain games that's correct. But i'd like to see you try and top leaderboards on the hardest difficulty on serious sam and gain over 45 million points. You play it off as if it's nothing. You haven't even touched the game so how in gods name would you even know how hard it was to reach leaderboards on serious sams single player. Even on sniper elite without any mission restarts you wouldn't be able to top leaderboards for score points on it's highest difficulty without dying and going back again with nothing. Again, another game you haven't played so you're clueless to how competative it actually is.

You think that just because some of the games i;ve played don't come under MLG rules means it's pointless. Well i've got news for you ya goit. I entered a counterstrike tournament in valcluse when i was 15 in a convention centre. Back then MLG wasn't a big tournament reign and games liek counetrstrike didn't use them to promote tournaments either. Even to this day counter strike uses more independent names than MLG to hold competative games.

On the side note i've played enough games without MLG ladders that started off with them at first and dropped them because no one cared about it. GTA, RedDead, Maxpayne, GRID,PGR4 etc. Games i consider competative and you wouldn't because you've never played them. Games in which a small to large community play and are good at them. But you completley dis miss them as competative because you most likley got smashed on themm haven't touched them and decide if you're not good at them then no one is.

And hears you giving me all this shyte on whats competative and whats not. Telling me i haven't done anything when i have. Thing's you can't even do. The only thing you've ever done is make youtube videos and you tell me i sweat it out as if "I" want to be noticed. All this horse shyte from someone who has still got their head in saintsrow as if it's the only game they can play.  And that's the only reason you think i have something to prove to a kid that hasn't done as much as i have and never will. It's as if you feel the need to think everyones up willi's arsehole because you lot treat him like something he isn't. There's no doubt willi's a good gamer, i've only ever played with him once on saints row and again with him on red dead redemption. But it's not me who feels like i owe him anything. It's you fcking idiots that have it in your head people have to proove something to him because you played saints row with him and the whole community was basically one with his intestine track.

You'd like to think i sweat it out. You'd like to think these games are hard for me when it's really an enjoyable process to be good at a game you like playing. I've got nothing to prove to the likes of you. If i wanted to try and let everyone know i'm a decent gamer i'd make youtube videos like yourself and edit them to make myself look good.

You tell me i've done nothing. You pass of CS as if it's nothing again a game you haven't played. A game in which held the most played multiplayer game for more than 5 years. The only reason you want to pass it off because it's something i've done and you haven't.

Getting a  lecture off you is one thing. But when you sat there all those years ago trying to make something out of yourself, is in a league of its own. As much as you truely feel like other people that have played saints row and have done more than just play PTP for 5 solid years have done nothing more than you makes yourself feel better then stick with it. A perfect example of your own mind when someone like my freind TS disaster states the exact samethings you did. Whenever disaster plays any multiplayer game with me. Wether it be GTA,Reddead,Mw2 or recently max payne, he passes them off as shyte games because he can't play them. A person who thought to much of himself on saints row, and when he tried other games he got no where. And when he got no where he started to hate on other players that got further than he did. Or he just uses the excuse of his connection and then calls the game shyte because he gets raped on it. Very much like yourself who claims games aren't competative because either you haven't played them or you didn't get far.

And sarcasm was the hint of you spelling your name wrong. I never stated your gamertag wasn't in order of the alphabet. I simply said you wouldn't know what letters came first with in the alphabet itself. You just like a thousand others on saints row have terrible gamertags. You think putting a "V" in your tag to replace a "U" looks cool. I hold my gamertag because i've always used it. While you've probably changed yours into every Zed "i" under the sun.

To be fair kid your attempt at trying to make me look like an idiot doesn't work well from someone who has played the same game for years. I've even asked about you from the likes of other saintsrow players that have far matured and come off that game years ago. All of them tell me you'd bust a nut over 1v1's making youtube videos. They all tell me you were a solid geek back in the day trying to make something out of yourself. And more than once they've stated you had an ego. Nice ego there bud. An ego that draws on others to make themselves sleep at night.

Jul 12, 2012 -- 2:45PM, TagaakiLoHurTz wrote:

Wow that must have taken you hours to write, considering you can't even spell half the words you put into that essay. Again, I'll just ignore you believing that CoD in public matches has a higher standard of players than MLG - anyone with a brain would tell you otherwise lad. Btw I HAVE played most of the games you've mentioned and I still think directly competing against other people takes more ability that playing against the computer, so I didn't bother reading that part. About you saying games like MP3 having an MLG ladder, no, they only ever had a GB ladder - if you don't get the difference don't read any further and just close the browser.

That's a lovely story about you entering that CS tournament as well, and I really don't care about how CS haven't used MLG - I was using it as an example to how top players on any game would prefer playing in decent tournaments and practicing against other decent teams than random blokes online who don't know anything about the game. You keep saying about YouTube videos but I haven't put any up in ages, and when I did they were few and far between. Sounds like you've watched each of my videos, thanks for the views.

Where do you get this idea that I still play SR? You don't know me, and I don't think I've ever played you on SR so don't assume that I've continually played since release. I played maybe two matches with OG Rich a while ago but apart from that, haven't played more than 20 games since gang matches were taken down. Who said anything about proving themselves to Willi? I just said about how you were upset about him not knowing who you are and it looked like you were the one wanting to prove himself to him..

You mentioned GTA, RDR and MW2.. when you didn't do anything on the games - I only really played MW2 which I was pretty good at but I can say GTA was a quality game that had some decent competition although I can't say the same for RDR. I've never seen anyone so up themselves believing that they've done great things on every game they've played but all you've ever done is enter a CS tournament and sweat your tits off on single player - congratulations btw. Back when Halo 3 first came out, MLG used an online ladder to determine seeds for the first tournament and my team entered along with around 2000 other teams. My team finished top 64, which qualified but we didn't go because I'm not a sweaty nerd and knew I wouldn't make my money back from going there.

I have ALWAYS used 'KiloHurTz' in one way or another, and AGAIN, my current gamertag only has 'v' in it because the 'u' is taken - any chance of you understanding that or is it too much for your meathead?

Lastly, if you could name any of the people that you think you've spoke to about me then yeah go ahead because I doubt any of them have actually played me much to know anything - especially since I think I have only ever made one 1v1 video, so nah that doesn't work tbh. You clearly are either chatting shite or talking to people that don't know me, probably both.

PS: Yeah my ego is massive. Anything else?

It took about 5 or 10 minutes to write but nice try on breaking the ice with an insult that doesn't really work. I wouldn't call it an essay, just a detailed description of why you're an idiot. And spelling mistakes are rich coming from you,  who can't even spell your own gamertag right. I never knew Kilohertz had a u in it replaced with a V. Brilliant.

Well you would ignore it wouldn't you. Because you don't see past the fact there are over 3 million people that play call of duty online and less than 100 thousand of them go into mlg scribs for tournaments. Which gives you a higher percentage of players palying public matches. Which overall gives you  a higher percentage of meeting more skilled players than you would by making a private match.But obviously you'll dismiss that like you have because you make youtube videos and obviously know more than me. Seen as you haven't entered a real tournament and i have.

Not playing agaisnt the computer takes more skill. In some situations yes it does take more skill to play against real players than it does the computer that's correct. However in most games i have played on singleplayer on it's highest difficulty it most certainly doesn't take more skill not to play against the computer. It's obvious you're oblivious to the hardest game on a console in the world which is ninja gaiden black edition. Fair enough when i tried out a tournament for that against other players on singleplayer i reached 20 out of say 130 people who attended.

There are other games on the 360 i've played which don't have multiplayer so it's impossible to play it against anyone else. Therefore i go for the leaderboards on singleplayer games i enjoy playing and i get somewhere. While other people don't and struggle to reach the top 10. You wouldn't have a Fck'n clue how many people try to compete with me over sniper elite v2. You don't know the messages i get from other players calling me a cheater or others above me. Everyday those leaderboards change in hope someone else competing against you or anyone in the top 10 will make it in there themselves. You've never played sniper elite V2 so you have no F'n idea about the leaderboards and how they work. And i'd like to see you even try to get in them because you'll have no F'n chance. Again something you'll pass off or not bother to read because you're a F'n idiot and haven't done it yourself so you don't want to feel like your ego has let you down.

Well you're a f'n idiot and you've proven that once again. Maxpayne 3 had both a GB ladder and MLG ranking ladder so wait ago proving that you really are as thick as pigshyte. To my knowledge maxpayne 3 still has an MLG ladder. But again you won't check yourself like i already have in the past and just now. You'll pass it off because otherwise knowing you might not sleep tonight if you were wrong, which you are. So take some nytol just incase you don't wake up in time for the job centre appointment you have in the morning.

You really have no F'n clue what you're saying which makes me wonder why i bother to reply to you. CS source have held more tournaments than any MLG convention ever has. Infact it means alot to people who still play counter strike source and thousands of people still attend Cs tournaments in france today. You do realise what a convention centre is don't you. It's not just playing random blokes online when they're sitting right next to you, playing against you to either win a cash prize or become part of an allstars team if your were playing clan matches in the tournament. I was just playing in a single ladder tournament and came 3rd which is good enough for me. Granted if i tried going back to it now i wouldn't get far. But even i have the common courtesy to realise that as far as CS goes, i'll never be as good as i were.

I haven't watched any of your videos on youtube but i know people that have. I'm not freizah kid. I don't sit there on youtube all day uploading or watching other peoples videos to see how good they've edited it to make themselves looke like something. I brang up your youtube videos because it's all you've ever done whilst you have the fck'n nerve to turn to me and say i've done nothing. A perfect example of just another kid on saints row that fills his bio with shyte in hopes someone might pay attention. You can criticise my bio all you want but i'm not trying to make myself sound better than i already am.

Where do i get this idea you still play SR? Well for starters when you came into the party 5 weeks ago you were playing it. Therefore you still play saints row. Fair enough you might like to boogie on down to michael jacksons kinect game but you still go back to saints row wether you'll accept it or not. TS disaster does the samething. If he gets pumped on a game he'll always go back to where he started because it's all he can actually play. That and full house poker. And to be quite honerst with you i don't even know if you're any good at that game. All i've been told is you're the one who used to shag mod deeno g. But these aren't my words, just the words of other people that have heard of your name. And even then when i ask if they know you they get mixed up with G3 Kiloz. And i'm yet to here by anyone that you're actually a good player. Say what you want about me on saints row.

What you just wrote here "Who said anything about proving themselves to Willi? I just said about how you were upset about him not knowing who you are and it looked like you were the one wanting to prove himself to him.." Pretty much instigates that you think people have something to prove to Sir willi. You don't know what my mindset is and i certainly didn't come here to get his attention but i got it. As soon as he didn't like what i said he came back and used the excuse of trying to argue because he likes it. I got his attention more than once when i didn't intend to. It's obvious i struck a nerve with willi when he finaly found out that someone from saints row doesn't actually like him nor have anything to prove. You see willi's ego stretches from far and beyond, and like many other people i've met on games they parade there bio's with absolute shyte. Fair enough willi has actually done something, but not more so than myself. And the only reason i even know who he is,is because of GAME LL Fool J with his lips rapped around his ****. Other than that i've only ever played twice with willi, once in TFK and another with him in a small gang that lasted 5 minutes to play around in. He probably wasn't much better than yourself. But because loud mouths speak and people follow with no mind they found out who he was. When i played with him he was no better than me so i don't see what the fuss is about. And the only reason i showed him what i've done was in hopes he'd show me what little he has. Butthis was all after his ego came out and started claiming i'm a TFK noob when he has no idea who i am.

I mentioned RDR,GTA and mw2 yes. On red dead redemption i became one of the three best players in hardcore matches. At first i were playing against people like G3 Kiloz who was in the top 10 of the leaderboards before more people came along he got smashed and went of the game. I ran into willi once on his own with a three others players in veteran matches near the end of the game and there was no one playing it so i went back to hardcore after the game ended. From then on no saints row players came on it and a better breed of players came in day by day. Of course you wouldn't know people like NaxaNikwenak or W1seToDaGame etc. Players that actually were amazing at it. There were tons of other clans like nT,UGK,Lord,dP.vT etc that pretty much ran the gamebattles team ladder. Through out 2 years of playing that game i ranked 40 with 20 odd thousand kills and 3 thousand deaths. I had an over all of a thousand three hundred wins and only three hundred losses. I also ranked 15 in capture the bag matches. But you'll dismiss that as nothing when you have no i f'n dea of the people who played it and pass it off as a game with no subsatnce because you probably haven't played it or couldn't.

So that's one thing i mentioned. On GTAIV i ranked 30 on TDM in the first few weeks of the game when everyone was playing it. I stopped playing it because i didn't like it and didn't bother to get any further than i already had. I haven't got the game so my stats to me might aswell be oblivious. But counted i still did something on that game more than most people acheived coming of the row onto it. Very much like yourself. So that's another assumption you've made and you'll pass of as nothing because you haven't done it.

Now modernwarfare 2 is a very hard game to make an impact. When i first started playing it i were doing 2v2's in the MLG leaderboards with my freind lewis who is actually one million times better than i am. Infact he's probably the only person i know that is consistently good when playing it. We got to rank 11 with our clan Infinite. Note that only lasted a week before i started getting into 3rd person and stopped playing 2v2s altogether. With TS disaster we both won numerous amounts of matches together and both had a ratio of 2.30 for our wins. Which isn't excellent but for Cod it's something. While my K/D ratio set out at 3.77 when i stopped playing it. A month into the game if you wanted to top the leaderboards you'd have to cheat to get there. So there wasn't much i could i do with a job on one hand and little gaming time on the other with a bunch of cheaters in the top thousand. And a bunch of other people that were almost 20 times better than i was. But atleast i'll admit i wasn't the best at cod. Not like you tossers on saints row that have to plaster there bios with shyte to make a deal out of themselves. And even then everyone i knew had  a lower ratio than my 3.77. So in away i did more than a bunch of kids stuck on PTP could ever do. And as a result of my kd and reaching rank 11 in the GB ladder in the height of people competing, then yes. I did do something. But again you'll pass that off as nothing because "YOU" haven't done it.

All of these assumptions you make that you know nothing about. You play them off because your a nobody. I'm a nobody and i'm not trying to be somebody. Willi is a nobody and most people i know are of no importance. But people like you and willi can't take someone being better at them on a 360. So you start making assumptions to boost your ego in hopes it makes you feel you've done more. You're a fckn joke kid, why argue when you have nothing.

You don't have to be a sweaty nerd to be good at something you like playing. Again another insult to make yourself feel better. I've got a job training to be a tree surgeon for the council. I've been in work since the age of 12. I'm certainly not like most of your chavy little imbred freinds who sit there on XBL all day. I certainly have no need to hard play at games i enjoy.

And come of you little rat. You're name is like everyone elses on saints row. Can't you get your head around another gamertag. Perhaps change the "Z" to an "S" change the "O" to an 0 Kil0herts,Kil0hurtz. I know it looks fcking terrible but a darn site better than your attempt at trying to make your gamertag look cool. If you came into a game and i didn't know you i'd instantly know you were some maggot from saints row. You should of stuck with Tagaa Kilohurtz. Or you wanna follow your little arab freind with a name change like clutch. fck me a mechanic in a car that changes gears. Brilliant gamertag. And yes you can fist fck antoine and say i copied his name and put TS in it. Even though i was the first one to change my name with our clan tag infront which is just basic and simple. Just like the rest of my name, simple. Not a name encouraged  by a webcam to make videos and realise you're the part of the SR community that gets the fcked ripped out of them when they enter a party with normal people in it.

I've spoken to a guy called Yo pedro his real name is connor and his other account was details I1I. Try freizah for example. I know he's a terrible example of someone to bring up in this argument considering he makes 1v1 videos till this day, every F'n day. Even with his ADHD ridden brain he and fireman have told me you were nothing special. Members from TFK who know of you and that's about it. Oh and C8A9L thinks you're a terrible player. But i don't go on anything he says because he's shyte rubbish himself and atleast i'm confident enough to know you're a better player than him.

To be fair you've made assumptions through out this argument. You've done what reach a halo 3 leaderboard on MLG. Well done. But that's most likley all you've done. I could be wrong. You could of broken into more leaderboards than i have but i extremley doubt it. Someone like you who claims i've done nothing yet he hasn't done fck all himself. Yea you're right kid, you have a major ego. But hold onto it because it's the only thing you'll ever have. That and your fck'n bio. "The Greatets of all time." And you're the one calling me the joke. Nice one ya little rat.

Oh and before you go on another ego trip and say "Oh you had time to look at my bio, that's nice of you." I were looking at the last time you played saints row. Which was exactly as i said just over a month ago. But you've admitted to that. What you won't admit to is that it's a game you've gone back to more than enough times after the gang leaderboards shut down.

Argue all you want ya freak. You'll just end up saying the same shyte all over again.

I really didn't want to read all of that, so I skim-read it and probably missed some of your points but whatever. I'll never change my mind about single player leaderboards but that's obviously two different opinions and that's that so yeah.

You are talking about GB leaderboards, that is NOT MLG - MLG ranking is literally GB rank with a new name. Please refer to the MLG website as I think it only runs tournaments for two or three games now - none of which are MP3 etc..

More players available doesn't mean better players, any of the top players play in tournaments (SUCH AS MLG, NOT ONLY MLG THOUGH) and if you actually believe there is anyone just in public matches than can walk into an MLG tournament and win it then you're wrong. I just cba explaining it anymore to someone that is so ****ing ignorant and just fully retarded. Why are you still going on about CS? It's a great game, and I know it's highly competitive etc etc etc etc so I don't get why you wrote that for no reason.

You mentioned 'MLG leaderboards' a few times about a few games, they aren't MLG. They are literally just GB and fair enough for doing alright on those but yeah that's brilliant. Do you even know how all this started? You randomly started saying about how I couldn't play any other game when you have NO IDEA - considering I could possibly be twice the player you are on CoD or any other game (not saying I am), it shows that it's actually you with a massive ego that needs to prove himself to everyone else about xbox. The 'sweaty nerd' wasn't a dig at you although you taking offense to it clearly means something, I was just saying the costs wouldn't have been covered and I would have to be sweaty enough, and care enough to actually go there to lose.

Deeno? I only played with him for a little on SR, so anyone from SR has no idea - I played more on other games such as CoD with him. It's pretty funny that you keep on about PTP too, I probably played more TGB with ICE than I played any other gametype - I barely even played PTP until Tagaa. Between MW2, Black Ops and MW3, I've been in plenty of top ten teams, including a team with friends (that I know in real life, not sure if you know the concept) that were 4th on the GB ladder in the first season on MW3.

Why keep bringing up SR? I saw that French geezer playing it so went on for a little, what's the problem with that? If you are so obsessed about people still playing it, why are you on the SR forums chatting **** about someone you don't know? Yeah it's a massive deal that I've played 20 games in 3 years on SR1, sorry about causing you so much worry mate.

I played some matches with Freeza yeah, but I've never played with Details or Fireman so whatever they say is lies hahahaha. Can't even remember if I've played C8A9L, so again probably someone with no idea. Believe it or not I know how my gamertag is supposed to be spelt, I simply changed it from the 'e' because I liked it more - problem? 

My bio had the usual shite until I got banned and didn't care enough to put it back so I just put that in it. You say that I can have the last word but you know you'll be back in no time lad, and yeah the free Michael Jackson game I got with Kinect hasn't left my xbox since I got it - maybe you should get it? There's plenty of leaderboards for you to compete single player on so you'd love it.

It's cool you've got a job, and you saying I haven't got one is funny tbh because I actually do - and I'm also developing my own business based on a phone app that I am going to get investment for in a few short weeks. When it's released I'll be sure to tell you, it's based on sports though so I doubt you'd be into it. How old are you? And you are still this obsessed about xbox - maybe try some exercise, it'll help.

PS: You talk a lot about my gamertag, have you not noticed you spelt 'crisis' wrong?